RNGC
07-06 10:03 PM
When I was in DC sometime last year saw a group of people standing in front of the capitol building holding signs that circumcision is cruel!!....
I am proposing that we atleast 50-100 members who can go to DC on a weekday morning, preferably Monday, should stand in that area, with signs highligting our problems, so all senators/congresspersons can see us, I guess that place is specifically for demonstrators, .....we can start from DC on Monday afternoon to our place.
But we need help from DC locals to get permissions...and send a copy of the permissions to all those who plan to attend....
Any date before August 15 will be too early I think, we shoud have enough time to plan to organize this....even 50-100 people would be good....we can take the entire family with kids and stand there for 2-4 hrs.....
CD campaign:
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I had one more idea....how about we put all the material , not only issues related to Jul 2, but all our issues, create an excellent coloured PDF version, write to CD, label it and send the CD too all senators/congress persons/Governors/lt.governers/President/etc etc...we should send this CD to atleast 1000 people and atleast 500 media contacts....
CDs being cheap, it should not cost much except for mailing it and we have some great talent in IV in writing the material.....
Nowadays CEOs/Politicians are so used to presentations etc...so CDs might help
Can we setup a poll for CD campaign.... ?
I am proposing that we atleast 50-100 members who can go to DC on a weekday morning, preferably Monday, should stand in that area, with signs highligting our problems, so all senators/congresspersons can see us, I guess that place is specifically for demonstrators, .....we can start from DC on Monday afternoon to our place.
But we need help from DC locals to get permissions...and send a copy of the permissions to all those who plan to attend....
Any date before August 15 will be too early I think, we shoud have enough time to plan to organize this....even 50-100 people would be good....we can take the entire family with kids and stand there for 2-4 hrs.....
CD campaign:
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I had one more idea....how about we put all the material , not only issues related to Jul 2, but all our issues, create an excellent coloured PDF version, write to CD, label it and send the CD too all senators/congress persons/Governors/lt.governers/President/etc etc...we should send this CD to atleast 1000 people and atleast 500 media contacts....
CDs being cheap, it should not cost much except for mailing it and we have some great talent in IV in writing the material.....
Nowadays CEOs/Politicians are so used to presentations etc...so CDs might help
Can we setup a poll for CD campaign.... ?
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chanduv23
07-08 03:04 PM
The exchange between Chanduv and Desi3933 has been a refreshingly objective discussion and is a welcome change from the typical hyper-reactionary posts one sees more frequently in this forum.
One of the features of the fight for EB immigration reforms we all need to be cognizant of is - that most (99%) of the members are in this fight to solve an immediate personal problem (visa situation) in a timely manner - most of us are not in it because we believe it to be a cause larger than us and a cause that demands personal sacrifice - and hence the lack of collective passion (lukewarm responses to IV sponsored drives, donation efforts etc.)
While - many have tried to compare this cause to India's independence struggle or Gandhiji's movement in South Africa - but the fundamental difference is that in both these struggles - people who led the struggles led it at a personal cost (Gandhiji willingly gave away a lucrative career to take up the struggle and so did Nehru; Netaji Bose was a Civil Services Officer and gave it up) - even the vast majority of revolutionaries (Bhagat Singh et al) were college educated professionals who could easily have had nice careers in British India.........and therein lies the fundamental difference......not one of us would willingly give up what we have for this struggle - we are in it because we are stuck in a system and want some resolution.......as soon as our particular situation gets resolved...we move on....(maybe there are a few exceptions and hats off to these folks).........and hence Desi - the answer to your question why H1 does not care for F1 and EAD does not care for H1 and so on.......it is not a collective cause - it is just a collection of individual causes - thats all - we would be fooling ourselves if we had some other grandiose visions - calling this group a cause would be the same as calling passengers on a bus one group - they are in the same bus simply because they share a part of their journey - thats it
Well said. healthy discussions help introspect ourselves. In day to day life we seldom see people trying to be wise and good. At workplaces, there is no healthy discussion - all people do is to watch out their backs and talk accordingly - which leads to false perspectives. These days when we give a good advice to friends or someone they may not percieve it in a good way with a "stop preaching me - go help yourself" attitude.
One of the features of the fight for EB immigration reforms we all need to be cognizant of is - that most (99%) of the members are in this fight to solve an immediate personal problem (visa situation) in a timely manner - most of us are not in it because we believe it to be a cause larger than us and a cause that demands personal sacrifice - and hence the lack of collective passion (lukewarm responses to IV sponsored drives, donation efforts etc.)
While - many have tried to compare this cause to India's independence struggle or Gandhiji's movement in South Africa - but the fundamental difference is that in both these struggles - people who led the struggles led it at a personal cost (Gandhiji willingly gave away a lucrative career to take up the struggle and so did Nehru; Netaji Bose was a Civil Services Officer and gave it up) - even the vast majority of revolutionaries (Bhagat Singh et al) were college educated professionals who could easily have had nice careers in British India.........and therein lies the fundamental difference......not one of us would willingly give up what we have for this struggle - we are in it because we are stuck in a system and want some resolution.......as soon as our particular situation gets resolved...we move on....(maybe there are a few exceptions and hats off to these folks).........and hence Desi - the answer to your question why H1 does not care for F1 and EAD does not care for H1 and so on.......it is not a collective cause - it is just a collection of individual causes - thats all - we would be fooling ourselves if we had some other grandiose visions - calling this group a cause would be the same as calling passengers on a bus one group - they are in the same bus simply because they share a part of their journey - thats it
Well said. healthy discussions help introspect ourselves. In day to day life we seldom see people trying to be wise and good. At workplaces, there is no healthy discussion - all people do is to watch out their backs and talk accordingly - which leads to false perspectives. These days when we give a good advice to friends or someone they may not percieve it in a good way with a "stop preaching me - go help yourself" attitude.
joeshmoe
06-08 06:52 PM
you can see the LIN# on the back of the check. i gave my own checks for the fees.
Should have done the same. Now my lazy attorney will take his sweet time to let me know when he got my receipt back from USCIS.
Should have done the same. Now my lazy attorney will take his sweet time to let me know when he got my receipt back from USCIS.
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qasleuth
02-12 02:28 PM
You have still not answered my question - where did you get the idea that I am here self imposing high standards? You have talked about everything else but that. So you have decided to take refuge by not answering the main reason why I said you are making accusations.
And just to prove that you are not off the mark, you are confusing everyone else who is reading the posts, between being on the right side morally and having a high standard in general! Again, get this into your head before you start typing more nonsense.
I totally get that people like you need to feel like everyone is more or equally corrupt than themselves, and that you try very hard to push down someone's throat that they are also as flawed as you are. Its ok, I understand! You're in that state of mind right now, that's why you're after me for 3-4 posts arleady asking me to accept that I'm not morally sincere!
Its time you go back to being in an artificially blissful state of mind thinking that you have proven everyone on this planet who dare speak of ethics and moral to be somehow riding on a high horse.
I know people like you, they are a dime a dozen! I do not have to pander to your misguided statements anymore!
LOL ! You made your point on page 2 and you should have let it go (about the morality of the issue)...when you keep hitting the point home giving the impression that you are squeaky clean is where my post came in. You misrepresented when you applied for a student visa and then got a job. period. Then you attack the other guy on his comm skills by saying things like "thinking in your native tongue and translating" BS when your own comm skills are in doubt. I have not condoned any of the actions in this thread, just taking exception to your language and presumptions.
As kumar pointed out, no need to be ultra harsh. Now let it go...bye.
And just to prove that you are not off the mark, you are confusing everyone else who is reading the posts, between being on the right side morally and having a high standard in general! Again, get this into your head before you start typing more nonsense.
I totally get that people like you need to feel like everyone is more or equally corrupt than themselves, and that you try very hard to push down someone's throat that they are also as flawed as you are. Its ok, I understand! You're in that state of mind right now, that's why you're after me for 3-4 posts arleady asking me to accept that I'm not morally sincere!
Its time you go back to being in an artificially blissful state of mind thinking that you have proven everyone on this planet who dare speak of ethics and moral to be somehow riding on a high horse.
I know people like you, they are a dime a dozen! I do not have to pander to your misguided statements anymore!
LOL ! You made your point on page 2 and you should have let it go (about the morality of the issue)...when you keep hitting the point home giving the impression that you are squeaky clean is where my post came in. You misrepresented when you applied for a student visa and then got a job. period. Then you attack the other guy on his comm skills by saying things like "thinking in your native tongue and translating" BS when your own comm skills are in doubt. I have not condoned any of the actions in this thread, just taking exception to your language and presumptions.
As kumar pointed out, no need to be ultra harsh. Now let it go...bye.
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kshitijnt
07-09 03:28 PM
Two things
1. Consultant can be part of job title and/or duties. Key thing is that job must be permanent and full-time.
2. PERM can only be filed for job that are permanent and full time.
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I know that , I had a rebuttal for consultant does not constitute employer employee relationship argument. It does not for the end client but does for the agency or consulting co.
1. Consultant can be part of job title and/or duties. Key thing is that job must be permanent and full-time.
2. PERM can only be filed for job that are permanent and full time.
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I know that , I had a rebuttal for consultant does not constitute employer employee relationship argument. It does not for the end client but does for the agency or consulting co.
imconfused
07-08 08:03 PM
In Fox News this afternoon, the senator has explicitly said that the Chicago lady does not have any "constituional rights" since she is not American citizen. Go figure what they think about us.
Congressman is absolutely worng. I hope they give such statements more and more and put their big foot into their even bigger mouth. once a h1/f1 etc visa has been issued to an individual, that individual has the right to be treated the same way as any other american till the time of his/her stay in the USA.
- This is my understanding and in no way a legal statement..
Congressman is absolutely worng. I hope they give such statements more and more and put their big foot into their even bigger mouth. once a h1/f1 etc visa has been issued to an individual, that individual has the right to be treated the same way as any other american till the time of his/her stay in the USA.
- This is my understanding and in no way a legal statement..
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simple1
05-01 12:15 PM
gc_on_demand,
Please dont mix priority date with quota.
spouse's priority date will be the same as primary priority date.
We are discussing about quota here.
Lets say I have PD of Aug 2007 and If govt makes me to file under EB and my wife under FB. When date becomes current in EB ( which has higer probability ) I will be able to file but my wife will not.
Now questions will be what will be her status ? If I switch to EAD ? second if govt give them a legal status but they have to wait for 3-4 years to date become current and file for 485.
Please dont mix priority date with quota.
spouse's priority date will be the same as primary priority date.
We are discussing about quota here.
Lets say I have PD of Aug 2007 and If govt makes me to file under EB and my wife under FB. When date becomes current in EB ( which has higer probability ) I will be able to file but my wife will not.
Now questions will be what will be her status ? If I switch to EAD ? second if govt give them a legal status but they have to wait for 3-4 years to date become current and file for 485.
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tonyHK12
02-11 10:05 AM
...by donating $100! Now, its your turn...
GO IV!!
thanks mantagon!
I donated for the first time yesterday. I intend to help out as I can. Could someone please let me know how the access to Donor forum works? Thanks!
This is a manual approval. please send details provided o the previous page:
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/forum85-action-items-for-everyone/1904554-action-item-advocacy-day-contributions-4.html#post2343160
Cheers! yes ivcoordinator is generally very busy
GO IV!!
thanks mantagon!
I donated for the first time yesterday. I intend to help out as I can. Could someone please let me know how the access to Donor forum works? Thanks!
This is a manual approval. please send details provided o the previous page:
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/forum85-action-items-for-everyone/1904554-action-item-advocacy-day-contributions-4.html#post2343160
Cheers! yes ivcoordinator is generally very busy
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chmur
07-27 01:21 PM
EB3 I issue being debated now is something we wish we could have but has not much logical ground,in my understanding. July issue is to do with flip flop of USCIS. IV didn't protest to make all current. Just made them not retract what USCIS/DOS said a month back.
2 year EAD is also for the whole community including future filers.
Clarify one thing for me. How this new rule that is helping EB2-I is impacting EB3-I. Based on what I understand, EB3 World is directly impacted by this change. Can you help me understand how EB3 -I is impacted?
Under the latest interpretation, EB3-I India will not get benefit until EB3-ROW gets benefit. So EB3-ROW benefiting will eventually benefit Eb3-I. That is the logical background.
The other two issues , which provided temporary relief, would have been redundant If we had recaptured the visas. Most of us, across the EB category/Country, would have been current or near current , rendering these issues redundant.
IV still went ahead with it (I am glad) knowing fully well recapture is difficult issue.
So no harm in EB3-I seeking temporary relief while still joining forces on the recapture issue.
Now you need to explain How EB3-I seeking favorable interpretation of spill over distribution undermines "Recapture effort". How are these related??
2 year EAD is also for the whole community including future filers.
Clarify one thing for me. How this new rule that is helping EB2-I is impacting EB3-I. Based on what I understand, EB3 World is directly impacted by this change. Can you help me understand how EB3 -I is impacted?
Under the latest interpretation, EB3-I India will not get benefit until EB3-ROW gets benefit. So EB3-ROW benefiting will eventually benefit Eb3-I. That is the logical background.
The other two issues , which provided temporary relief, would have been redundant If we had recaptured the visas. Most of us, across the EB category/Country, would have been current or near current , rendering these issues redundant.
IV still went ahead with it (I am glad) knowing fully well recapture is difficult issue.
So no harm in EB3-I seeking temporary relief while still joining forces on the recapture issue.
Now you need to explain How EB3-I seeking favorable interpretation of spill over distribution undermines "Recapture effort". How are these related??
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texcan
09-04 07:12 PM
I have mailed my I-485/EAD/I-131 on July 26th and same were received at NSC on July 27th. I did get the receipt numbers for all the same yesterday. The receipt date is Aug 27th, 2007. I did have an TSC I140.
boppana99,
Your case is similiar to mine. Just curious did you get TSC or NSC numbers.
I think TSC nos start with SRC and NSC is LIN.
Please share info.
boppana99,
Your case is similiar to mine. Just curious did you get TSC or NSC numbers.
I think TSC nos start with SRC and NSC is LIN.
Please share info.
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VA_GC9
07-09 07:48 PM
We need to keep the message short. But concise. Media will create all the corresponding articles, and messages. We just need to bring it to their attention, they will figure out after research, that it was "munnabhai". Frankly, the message is important, not the messenger or the vehicle that the messenger drove.
Guys see this..
July 9, 2007. Message from USCIS Director Emilio Gonzalez
I understand that individuals are planning to send flowers to U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) beginning on Tuesday, July 10. USCIS has made arrangements to forward those flowers to our injured service members recuperating at Walter Reed Army Medical Center and at Bethesda Naval Hospital.
http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis
Guys see this..
July 9, 2007. Message from USCIS Director Emilio Gonzalez
I understand that individuals are planning to send flowers to U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) beginning on Tuesday, July 10. USCIS has made arrangements to forward those flowers to our injured service members recuperating at Walter Reed Army Medical Center and at Bethesda Naval Hospital.
http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis
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truthinspector
07-05 01:10 PM
The culprit being subjected to Gandhigiri (Gandhi-ism: A strategy to win unjust,corrupt mind by highly unexpected pleasant deeds.)has some shame and self respect.If the target is a moron, he would slap you to death, no matter how many chances you give him.
In our case we don't even know who the culprit is (USCIS/DOS/Capitol Hill/Anti-Immigrants/Lobbyists). The only thing that would come out of these flowers is a security alarm. I know many would take this as a negative approach, but this is the most logical outcome of this action.
On a lighter note, if sending flowers/fruits would have won hearts of the immigration officers, imagine how easy GC would be for those illegal immigrants who work on the farms.
Gandhigiri is a concept in an indian movie based on Gandhi principles. In which hero of the movie wins over anti-hero by sending flowers to him as per Gandhi principles for every wrong doing he does and he makes others also do the same who are effected by the anti-hero wrong doings..
In our case we don't even know who the culprit is (USCIS/DOS/Capitol Hill/Anti-Immigrants/Lobbyists). The only thing that would come out of these flowers is a security alarm. I know many would take this as a negative approach, but this is the most logical outcome of this action.
On a lighter note, if sending flowers/fruits would have won hearts of the immigration officers, imagine how easy GC would be for those illegal immigrants who work on the farms.
Gandhigiri is a concept in an indian movie based on Gandhi principles. In which hero of the movie wins over anti-hero by sending flowers to him as per Gandhi principles for every wrong doing he does and he makes others also do the same who are effected by the anti-hero wrong doings..
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jonty_11
10-27 10:44 AM
I understand we want to stand alone with our issues and that may be favourable to us from an anti-immi stance taken by many in Govt and otherwise. I am not sure though if by alienating EB retrogression issue with H1B increase we will be able to get anything done.
Our main supporters are teh corporations who hire us and want us to be perm. There bigger concern right now is getting more people who can hired on H1B. Unless we threaten mass exodus, I do not think we stand a chance if we try to run alone with only EB retrogression issue.
People (Senators aginst CIR or SKILL and even NUmbers USA) may say that OK we are not against you folks, but the point is will those same people do something about our predicament if this was the only thing on the table, I dont think so.
Our main supporters are teh corporations who hire us and want us to be perm. There bigger concern right now is getting more people who can hired on H1B. Unless we threaten mass exodus, I do not think we stand a chance if we try to run alone with only EB retrogression issue.
People (Senators aginst CIR or SKILL and even NUmbers USA) may say that OK we are not against you folks, but the point is will those same people do something about our predicament if this was the only thing on the table, I dont think so.
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GCEB2
09-03 02:41 PM
Please do share your experience after the InfoPass. I will follow accordingly.
To better be on safe side to get it stamped on my passport. I took info pass on 8-11-08 it will be almost 30 days
I think it is 9-11-08...am I right?
They say you will become actual permanent resident when you get the card The card is important.
As replied by Desi3933, it is incorrect to my knowledge. Approval notice it self is a proof that you are a Permanent Resident. The stamp in the passport works for us till we get the physical card. I think you will get it on 9/11/08 9Infopass appointment date).
Hi hiUS
Thanks for noticing I have corrected my info pass date.
did you took info pass appointment.
To better be on safe side to get it stamped on my passport. I took info pass on 8-11-08 it will be almost 30 days
I think it is 9-11-08...am I right?
They say you will become actual permanent resident when you get the card The card is important.
As replied by Desi3933, it is incorrect to my knowledge. Approval notice it self is a proof that you are a Permanent Resident. The stamp in the passport works for us till we get the physical card. I think you will get it on 9/11/08 9Infopass appointment date).
Hi hiUS
Thanks for noticing I have corrected my info pass date.
did you took info pass appointment.
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BharatPremi
12-16 06:26 PM
if you see life as a series of choices and actions, then the lack of GC inhibits a lot of choices and actions.
how badly you wish to change career for example, varies among individuals. but one should not forget that life is finite number of years, and the system here wants to eat all your productive years by dangling the GC carrot.
as sufferers of this ordeal, i believe it is our duty to inform the young and innocent who are not yet in this mess, about the future that awaits them.
mind you i am not discouraging anyone from coming to the US.. that is a decision that must be made by the individual.... just making sure the rules and realities of the game are known to people before they come here.
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how badly you wish to change career for example, varies among individuals. but one should not forget that life is finite number of years, and the system here wants to eat all your productive years by dangling the GC carrot.
as sufferers of this ordeal, i believe it is our duty to inform the young and innocent who are not yet in this mess, about the future that awaits them.
mind you i am not discouraging anyone from coming to the US.. that is a decision that must be made by the individual.... just making sure the rules and realities of the game are known to people before they come here.
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NKR
04-23 12:54 PM
I just read first page of this thread and would advice that don't follow most of reply because they are lawyers or they have not gone through the experience you are going through. $4000 may not be big amount compared to hassle of law suite , piece of mind or the amount of increase you may have received by switching employer. I know a close person who had gone through exactly same situation in NJ and had to pay 12,000 to settle the case. I have seen bunch of people in same situation and my friend always adviced them to stay away from law suite. If your current employer is not big then there are greater chances that it will turn away from you in case of law suite.
If you are not working with same client that you were working when you were in company A then non-compete may not hold against you.
Also can you get in writing from you current employer that they will support you in case of law suite?
Are you an desi employer by any chance?. Just wondering�
Also I agree with most of what kshitijnt says but why should somebody apologize even after he has placed 4 employees and has worked for 2 years. He did not leave within couple of months for crying out loud. Some of the desi employers are so greedy and unethical that even after you slog with them for years, they still want to hold on to something just to prove they are employer/boss. This is a lesson for people wanting to help their employers business. I would tell them that it is none of their business to help their employer�s business.
If you are not working with same client that you were working when you were in company A then non-compete may not hold against you.
Also can you get in writing from you current employer that they will support you in case of law suite?
Are you an desi employer by any chance?. Just wondering�
Also I agree with most of what kshitijnt says but why should somebody apologize even after he has placed 4 employees and has worked for 2 years. He did not leave within couple of months for crying out loud. Some of the desi employers are so greedy and unethical that even after you slog with them for years, they still want to hold on to something just to prove they are employer/boss. This is a lesson for people wanting to help their employers business. I would tell them that it is none of their business to help their employer�s business.
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royus77
06-27 12:36 PM
Another clause which dreads me ... "Waiver of Rights"
5. Employee also understands and acknowledges that there are other state and local human or civil rights laws as well as other statutes which regulate employment, and understands and acknowledges that the common law of contracts and torts may regulate employment in some fashion. Employee hereby waives and releases any rights he may have under these or any other laws or contracts with respect to his employment and termination of employment at the Company. He agrees to give up any claims he may have against the Company, alleging that they have (a) discriminated against him, (b) breached any contract with him, (c) committed any civil wrong (tort) against him, (d) sexually harassed him, or (e) otherwise acted unlawfully toward him.
These kind of agreements doesnt stand in any court .You can always say that you are forced to sign for your livelihood period.Esp. if he is a desi employer he even doesnt dare to go to court as that will cause more damage.
5. Employee also understands and acknowledges that there are other state and local human or civil rights laws as well as other statutes which regulate employment, and understands and acknowledges that the common law of contracts and torts may regulate employment in some fashion. Employee hereby waives and releases any rights he may have under these or any other laws or contracts with respect to his employment and termination of employment at the Company. He agrees to give up any claims he may have against the Company, alleging that they have (a) discriminated against him, (b) breached any contract with him, (c) committed any civil wrong (tort) against him, (d) sexually harassed him, or (e) otherwise acted unlawfully toward him.
These kind of agreements doesnt stand in any court .You can always say that you are forced to sign for your livelihood period.Esp. if he is a desi employer he even doesnt dare to go to court as that will cause more damage.
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amitjoey
05-23 01:06 PM
Called Senator Leahy's office. The lady asked me to leave a message to the senator on the answering machine.
Neelu, Please post your messages on the phone thread also, it will inspire everybody to start calling.
Neelu, Please post your messages on the phone thread also, it will inspire everybody to start calling.
saimrathi
07-11 10:25 AM
It would be great if the ppl at Walter Reed who got the flowers speak to the media and tell them that they thank us and they hope USCIS doesnt screw us... if it hasnt already done so..
DO you really think the flowers were delivered at Walter Reed though?
DO you really think the flowers were delivered at Walter Reed though?
sunny1000
07-09 12:13 AM
United states postal service. My lawyer sent it on june 29 and to this day it's a mestry to me how it was delivered at 10:10 pm at night. I did not think anybody would accept it. BUt if they were working on 25000 in 48 hours. The only reason i think they took it is to finish the number of visa available.
still It does not mean anything ... they can reject it.
Can you please tell the date..was it 6/29? Thx
still It does not mean anything ... they can reject it.
Can you please tell the date..was it 6/29? Thx
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