dontcareanymore
07-28 01:37 AM
Sorry if I am dashing the hopes of some and sound too pessimistic , but I think I have the right to be one , and this is what I feel where we are headed:
1) Historically EB2 and Eb1 has the advantage over EB3. You may argue on the merits but it is the fact. It may be news for the folks who got in to the queue recently , but that is generally a trend except recent past. So there is no use in getting mad that EB2 are GC before EB3. But at the same time I don't accept arguments from some EB2s that EB2s are smarter than EB3 and have the right to get GC at least 6 years ahead of EB3. Like every thing else in this unfair process , you are at the right place at the right time and you get it. Be happy for that. If you can't understand the frustration of some Eb3s, the minimum you could do is not show off. If some one has been around for a while and seen this process they would not be either surprised or jealous about EB2's current status.
2) It is sad to see this infighting. We are in a GC quagmire and there are no better solutions and most people are really frustrated and you can see that in the discussions. I see that the interest from active people in waning and probably justifiably so. You can see a pattern of decreasing interest from the peek (Jul last ear) . Most people are happy with EAD and Ac21 and some of the active folks got their GCs. Some of the most vocal, visible people on the forum has changed their tune soon after the last bulletin , just because their PD is current. It changes from "we all are in this together" to "You are on your own". Good luck to people in the queue to convince your brothers to be with you , if and when you walk the streets of DC :) :). They are at the doorsteps of being PR and are in a different group. If some of the posts are any indication, They think they are entitled to look down on you.
3) There was a post a while ago asking whether the core group is wasting their time. Most of the time I agree. Most of us here are just for our selfish sake , despite what most preach about cause , justice , fairness , principles etc. Some to go the extent of comparing this with great fights in their home country. It is far from it. Just one air GYGC.
4) we started loosing the unity the moment we forgot our main objective. "All immigrants are in this together" and this is not country specific. Instead of fighting together with others to capture lost visa numbers and exempt family members from the quota , we tried to snatch some numbers from our friends (ROW).(Not that I believe we could get the visa recapture this year) Now we are further divided between EB2I and EB3I with the same argument. I can give you another example of selfishness. Now that these guys have EAD and AP, they don't want concurrent filing , don't want premium processing for 140. Don't want any one else interfile with EB2. Just process my application without an interruption :):). I don't care if others done even get their H1 extended or get EAD. Where we are headed with this approach ?
What do we have in store :
Just hope the stars align for you and one day you will get yours. It will happen even if it takes 10 years. Live with it because you chose it.
Don't loose sleep over some one else getting GC ahead of you. Try to live your life.
Do what ever you can to better the situation. It depends on what you believe.
If you have 10 people with you in the struggle , don't count on them to be with you tomorrow.
if you are pissed off about some thing, went it by non-violent method. feels good. Blog , watch a comedy movie or do some thing that relaxes you.
Don't be surprised if your hopes are dashed.
At the end of the day getting GC is not indicative of your education, experience,capacity , knowledge , wisdom , usefulness to this country or the other way round. "GC is just what you have, not what you are ".
I must have ruffled some feathers. If your feathers are ruffled , please see my handle. :):)
1) Historically EB2 and Eb1 has the advantage over EB3. You may argue on the merits but it is the fact. It may be news for the folks who got in to the queue recently , but that is generally a trend except recent past. So there is no use in getting mad that EB2 are GC before EB3. But at the same time I don't accept arguments from some EB2s that EB2s are smarter than EB3 and have the right to get GC at least 6 years ahead of EB3. Like every thing else in this unfair process , you are at the right place at the right time and you get it. Be happy for that. If you can't understand the frustration of some Eb3s, the minimum you could do is not show off. If some one has been around for a while and seen this process they would not be either surprised or jealous about EB2's current status.
2) It is sad to see this infighting. We are in a GC quagmire and there are no better solutions and most people are really frustrated and you can see that in the discussions. I see that the interest from active people in waning and probably justifiably so. You can see a pattern of decreasing interest from the peek (Jul last ear) . Most people are happy with EAD and Ac21 and some of the active folks got their GCs. Some of the most vocal, visible people on the forum has changed their tune soon after the last bulletin , just because their PD is current. It changes from "we all are in this together" to "You are on your own". Good luck to people in the queue to convince your brothers to be with you , if and when you walk the streets of DC :) :). They are at the doorsteps of being PR and are in a different group. If some of the posts are any indication, They think they are entitled to look down on you.
3) There was a post a while ago asking whether the core group is wasting their time. Most of the time I agree. Most of us here are just for our selfish sake , despite what most preach about cause , justice , fairness , principles etc. Some to go the extent of comparing this with great fights in their home country. It is far from it. Just one air GYGC.
4) we started loosing the unity the moment we forgot our main objective. "All immigrants are in this together" and this is not country specific. Instead of fighting together with others to capture lost visa numbers and exempt family members from the quota , we tried to snatch some numbers from our friends (ROW).(Not that I believe we could get the visa recapture this year) Now we are further divided between EB2I and EB3I with the same argument. I can give you another example of selfishness. Now that these guys have EAD and AP, they don't want concurrent filing , don't want premium processing for 140. Don't want any one else interfile with EB2. Just process my application without an interruption :):). I don't care if others done even get their H1 extended or get EAD. Where we are headed with this approach ?
What do we have in store :
Just hope the stars align for you and one day you will get yours. It will happen even if it takes 10 years. Live with it because you chose it.
Don't loose sleep over some one else getting GC ahead of you. Try to live your life.
Do what ever you can to better the situation. It depends on what you believe.
If you have 10 people with you in the struggle , don't count on them to be with you tomorrow.
if you are pissed off about some thing, went it by non-violent method. feels good. Blog , watch a comedy movie or do some thing that relaxes you.
Don't be surprised if your hopes are dashed.
At the end of the day getting GC is not indicative of your education, experience,capacity , knowledge , wisdom , usefulness to this country or the other way round. "GC is just what you have, not what you are ".
I must have ruffled some feathers. If your feathers are ruffled , please see my handle. :):)
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anilsal
12-10 12:37 PM
There is absolutely no need for more foreigners here and no need for more green cards.
I guess to the original inhabitants, you are a foreigner too. Now with what card did your ancestors arrive? I am sure just the steamer card would not make the cut.
By the way, thanks for visiting our forums. There sure are so many websites on the internet, that you took the time to visit us.
I guess to the original inhabitants, you are a foreigner too. Now with what card did your ancestors arrive? I am sure just the steamer card would not make the cut.
By the way, thanks for visiting our forums. There sure are so many websites on the internet, that you took the time to visit us.
guchi472000
03-26 09:41 AM
My PD is EB2 Nov 2006.
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jk333
07-07 11:08 AM
Am in the bay area..
Just reading this thread, so not sure if I can attend today.
Will surely attend the rally with my wife on July14th.
Just a thought..Why not request all our GC/citizen friends to also attend?
I will persuade all my friends to attend.
If not anything, they can see it as a nice stroll in the downtown.
-JK
Just reading this thread, so not sure if I can attend today.
Will surely attend the rally with my wife on July14th.
Just a thought..Why not request all our GC/citizen friends to also attend?
I will persuade all my friends to attend.
If not anything, they can see it as a nice stroll in the downtown.
-JK
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h1techSlave
03-28 11:16 AM
You have predicted that EB3-India cut of date would become June 2003. But your PD is July 2003. Usually people do not predict that way. They predict their own PD would become current pretty soon.:D
At one end it is bad that USCIS moved back Nebraska Processing date to June 08 2007 (More than one month backword) but it looks like USCIS is preparing itself to kick EB3-India ahead... It is too early to say this confidently.. But my feeling is that USCIS will keep processing dates tied to June 2007 and will kick EB3-India ahead. I am keeping my fingers crossed. Though as per murthy's web site in May bulletin EB3-India dates will remain same, I am feeling that if my guess is correct then at least from June bulletin we will see 2 patterns 1) Nebraka processing date would not move ahead for some months or will
move ahead very slowly from June 08 2007
2) Eb3-India PD dates will move ahead speedily. To me it looks like USCIS is now prepared to kick EB3-I (Till June 2003 PD) lot out.
At one end it is bad that USCIS moved back Nebraska Processing date to June 08 2007 (More than one month backword) but it looks like USCIS is preparing itself to kick EB3-India ahead... It is too early to say this confidently.. But my feeling is that USCIS will keep processing dates tied to June 2007 and will kick EB3-India ahead. I am keeping my fingers crossed. Though as per murthy's web site in May bulletin EB3-India dates will remain same, I am feeling that if my guess is correct then at least from June bulletin we will see 2 patterns 1) Nebraka processing date would not move ahead for some months or will
move ahead very slowly from June 08 2007
2) Eb3-India PD dates will move ahead speedily. To me it looks like USCIS is now prepared to kick EB3-I (Till June 2003 PD) lot out.
ganeshtsk
07-05 11:27 AM
This is a neat idea to draw worthwhile attention which at the same time won't cause any hatred. I'm sure most of us would like to act upon this.
Can one of core members talk to a florist and workout some kind of arrangement where if we call them and give a code and payment they would process the order with a pre-set message and delivery address. I'm sure we will have a large participation if we make the process simple for the mass.
Also make this a front page message.
Can one of core members talk to a florist and workout some kind of arrangement where if we call them and give a code and payment they would process the order with a pre-set message and delivery address. I'm sure we will have a large participation if we make the process simple for the mass.
Also make this a front page message.
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machachan
09-09 03:17 PM
We filed i485 on Aug 1st still no news from receipt.
I don't know which office, the lawyer took care of it.
I'm from northern california, so I assume that will be Nebraska.
I don't know which office, the lawyer took care of it.
I'm from northern california, so I assume that will be Nebraska.
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vgayalu
06-26 04:00 PM
Hi guys,
We can keep CIR aside for some time. Are there any trails going to introduce any bill to get EAd before Priority date become current. It gives great relief to most of the people. why donot we support to core team in this issue?
We can keep CIR aside for some time. Are there any trails going to introduce any bill to get EAd before Priority date become current. It gives great relief to most of the people. why donot we support to core team in this issue?
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syzygy
09-14 04:14 AM
No single person can do this alone. A big group like IV should / must sue USCIS.
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mchundi
05-03 03:50 PM
MC:
The language is clear. IT talks about premium processing to adjust status for EMPLOYMENT BASED IMMIGRANT petition...H1B premium processing is a done deal....
Thanks bkarnik,
Does it mean those who PD is not current can pay more and file for AOS or those who pay more get faster adjudication?
--MC
The language is clear. IT talks about premium processing to adjust status for EMPLOYMENT BASED IMMIGRANT petition...H1B premium processing is a done deal....
Thanks bkarnik,
Does it mean those who PD is not current can pay more and file for AOS or those who pay more get faster adjudication?
--MC
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nk2006
07-07 03:04 PM
Yes, registering with the Police department of the city is a must. All they need (at least in San Jose) is your name, driver's license number etc. They will register it.
You dont need permit for walking on sidewalks. You need permit only if you plan to stop traffic and block streets. None of us want to do that.
Check with your city's police department and find out how to register for march on sidewalks without stopping traffic. I guess that's a lot easier than getting permits to stop traffic etc.
Now, as to rallies other than San Jose rally, if you plan to lead the rally and get the event registered, then please email me at jay@Immigrationvoice.org and I will help you get members. I have list of all members and their states and once you finalize the event, I will email the entire list and point them to you. I will also provide you with material, guidance and Immigration voice's message and talking points should you be approached by a reporter. In fact, its a good idea to tell local papers in your area before hand so that the know to cover the event.
Members in NYC, Washington DC, Chicago, LA etc should have absolutely no problems in finding enough members planning to walk on the street for an hour. I will help you find enough participants in your city, if you send me an email and if you are ready to lead these events.
Nice to see the momentum is picking up. It would be great if all the rallies (in different cities) are planned on the same day to have maximum coverage to get more attention. Who knows we might even get some national media coverage - especially if 3 or 4 rallies succeed.
You dont need permit for walking on sidewalks. You need permit only if you plan to stop traffic and block streets. None of us want to do that.
Check with your city's police department and find out how to register for march on sidewalks without stopping traffic. I guess that's a lot easier than getting permits to stop traffic etc.
Now, as to rallies other than San Jose rally, if you plan to lead the rally and get the event registered, then please email me at jay@Immigrationvoice.org and I will help you get members. I have list of all members and their states and once you finalize the event, I will email the entire list and point them to you. I will also provide you with material, guidance and Immigration voice's message and talking points should you be approached by a reporter. In fact, its a good idea to tell local papers in your area before hand so that the know to cover the event.
Members in NYC, Washington DC, Chicago, LA etc should have absolutely no problems in finding enough members planning to walk on the street for an hour. I will help you find enough participants in your city, if you send me an email and if you are ready to lead these events.
Nice to see the momentum is picking up. It would be great if all the rallies (in different cities) are planned on the same day to have maximum coverage to get more attention. Who knows we might even get some national media coverage - especially if 3 or 4 rallies succeed.
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vinnysuru
03-28 11:57 PM
Since you never got an H1-B stamped in your passport, you are not eligible for AVR (since there is no H1B visa to revalidate). You could do AVR for F-1 since you have that stamp but that is also NOT VIABLE any more because you are now not eligible/admissible for F-1.
So your choices are:
1. Come back in with AP (safest)
2. Go for H1-B stamping (approved, you come in with H1-B/ denied you come in with AP)
Both have their Pros and Cons.
Good luck and PS: There have been few people who got RFE because of Canada Landing. When you get the RFE, you have to again prove your intent of immigrating to US. You can show that by a sworn affadavit of your intent to settle in US. Additional, you can show employment ties, property etc. etc. Like we need to show ties to home country before F-1 or other strictly non immigrant visa interview.
But most people who have landed in Canada have had no issues.
So your choices are:
1. Come back in with AP (safest)
2. Go for H1-B stamping (approved, you come in with H1-B/ denied you come in with AP)
Both have their Pros and Cons.
Good luck and PS: There have been few people who got RFE because of Canada Landing. When you get the RFE, you have to again prove your intent of immigrating to US. You can show that by a sworn affadavit of your intent to settle in US. Additional, you can show employment ties, property etc. etc. Like we need to show ties to home country before F-1 or other strictly non immigrant visa interview.
But most people who have landed in Canada have had no issues.
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mhtanim
02-03 09:59 PM
Count me too. I am from NSC to CSC, my case is still in CA only.I don't know what is happening. I have opned 2 SR's also. I am a july 2 nd filer.
You are not the only one. My case is NSC-CSC-NSC and no FP yet.
You are not the only one. My case is NSC-CSC-NSC and no FP yet.
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Macaca
12-11 09:36 PM
I have mentioned IV to a some Indians. They have no interest. Some of them are not bothered about retrogression. They exepect the GC to fall in their lap while they are sipping tea and eating samosa.
Also, it is hard to trust a mainly Indian set up. The Indian contracting companies have set a very shameless level. I told my friends that IV appears different but it is hard to change your opinion when you see something else 10 times a day.
I apolozie to the sensitive Indians if I this is breaking news. But this is the general feeling and a reason for hate in the blogs: where there is smoke there is fire. It is embarassing.
For the life of me, I couldn't figure this out either.
I also don't understand why most of EB applicants are so oblivious to the EB-based immigration situation.
I am from ROW, and I could only shake my head in disbelief when one of my Indian friends asked me innocently if the 'situation' was 'really that bad'?
If there really are 600K EB applicants, and all we can get is 6K members, then perhaps we deserve the crappy situation we find ourselves in today.
Also, it is hard to trust a mainly Indian set up. The Indian contracting companies have set a very shameless level. I told my friends that IV appears different but it is hard to change your opinion when you see something else 10 times a day.
I apolozie to the sensitive Indians if I this is breaking news. But this is the general feeling and a reason for hate in the blogs: where there is smoke there is fire. It is embarassing.
For the life of me, I couldn't figure this out either.
I also don't understand why most of EB applicants are so oblivious to the EB-based immigration situation.
I am from ROW, and I could only shake my head in disbelief when one of my Indian friends asked me innocently if the 'situation' was 'really that bad'?
If there really are 600K EB applicants, and all we can get is 6K members, then perhaps we deserve the crappy situation we find ourselves in today.
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somegchuh
03-10 02:39 AM
A lot of people can give you advice but I think it really comes down to making peace with yourself.
I have been thru the pain of being stuck in LC for over 4 years and I can completely sympathize with you. I know it can be really frustrating. I have been thru swings of optimisim and pessimism in those 4 years. Ultimately this is what I have realized, there is always a price to be paid in life if you want to achieve anything in life. It is upto each one of us to decide if GC is worth the various years of being stuck in same job, wife being stuck on H4 is the right price for GC or am I paying too much. For me personally, I think I am paying a big price but I am like a businessman who has invested so much money and time in his enterprise that he's afraid to drop the venture and start another business. Actually a lot of us fall in this category.
So look at it this way. Write down the price you are paying. Figure out if you still want to put your effort (and how much) in trying to get a GC. If you think its a venture that's not worth the outcome, there's your answer! If you think its worth the outcome but you are afraid you still may not get a GC, work on backup plan i.e. evaluate and apply for immigration to other western countries or evaluate and work on a plan to go back to your home country. Knowing the price and having alternate plans will give you peace of minds. More than anything else don't forget to have fun. A lot of times we get caught up in worrying about what might/might not happen in future and don't enjoy the present! Go out with your wife and have a fancy dinner every now and then ... do something spontaneous... Watch movies, listen to music, go bowling with friends ... whatever takes your mind off the routine!
I see a lot of guys telling everyone who is frustrated saying: Let your wife get her own H1, why don't you buy a house on H1, why don't you have kids? Well, its good to offer suggestions but don't get condescending. Not everyone is fortunate enough to have a stable job that they can buy a house. Not everyone's wife is in IT and can get a desi co. to sponsor H1. Not everyone is at peace mentally enough that they can plan children.
Well, I am TOO depressed about the BEC performance. I know too many people are in same situation but I find myself "helpless" and at least i want to SCREAM......:mad:
I have been thru the pain of being stuck in LC for over 4 years and I can completely sympathize with you. I know it can be really frustrating. I have been thru swings of optimisim and pessimism in those 4 years. Ultimately this is what I have realized, there is always a price to be paid in life if you want to achieve anything in life. It is upto each one of us to decide if GC is worth the various years of being stuck in same job, wife being stuck on H4 is the right price for GC or am I paying too much. For me personally, I think I am paying a big price but I am like a businessman who has invested so much money and time in his enterprise that he's afraid to drop the venture and start another business. Actually a lot of us fall in this category.
So look at it this way. Write down the price you are paying. Figure out if you still want to put your effort (and how much) in trying to get a GC. If you think its a venture that's not worth the outcome, there's your answer! If you think its worth the outcome but you are afraid you still may not get a GC, work on backup plan i.e. evaluate and apply for immigration to other western countries or evaluate and work on a plan to go back to your home country. Knowing the price and having alternate plans will give you peace of minds. More than anything else don't forget to have fun. A lot of times we get caught up in worrying about what might/might not happen in future and don't enjoy the present! Go out with your wife and have a fancy dinner every now and then ... do something spontaneous... Watch movies, listen to music, go bowling with friends ... whatever takes your mind off the routine!
I see a lot of guys telling everyone who is frustrated saying: Let your wife get her own H1, why don't you buy a house on H1, why don't you have kids? Well, its good to offer suggestions but don't get condescending. Not everyone is fortunate enough to have a stable job that they can buy a house. Not everyone's wife is in IT and can get a desi co. to sponsor H1. Not everyone is at peace mentally enough that they can plan children.
Well, I am TOO depressed about the BEC performance. I know too many people are in same situation but I find myself "helpless" and at least i want to SCREAM......:mad:
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alterego
12-11 05:05 PM
I feel more H1b visas alone and/or nurses visas only would actually be bad for us. It takes some of the pressure off the senators from the Tech Lobby/healthcare lobby. In fact one of the silver linings in this last week is that nothing at all was done. This is sure to keep the pressure rising in the start of the 110th congress.
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saketkapur
09-24 06:34 PM
Guys this year's party is pretty much over :rolleyes:....whts the point debating something whether right or wrong which pretty much nobody can do anything about except went frustration from whichever side of the isle one sits on.....
As per Mr C.O. of USCIS I guess they have sent out the party invitation for the year so I guess there is no point sniping at each other. New inivitations will start from July next yr...;)
Take a chill pill guys....its a weekend.....get a beer....enjoy life( beleive me GC or no GC these days will not come by:make the most) :D
As per Mr C.O. of USCIS I guess they have sent out the party invitation for the year so I guess there is no point sniping at each other. New inivitations will start from July next yr...;)
Take a chill pill guys....its a weekend.....get a beer....enjoy life( beleive me GC or no GC these days will not come by:make the most) :D
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dtekkedil
07-05 01:47 PM
This is a neat idea to draw worthwhile attention which at the same time won't cause any hatred. I'm sure most of us would like to act upon this.
Can one of core members talk to a florist and workout some kind of arrangement where if we call them and give a code and payment they would process the order with a pre-set message and delivery address. I'm sure we will have a large participation if we make the process simple for the mass.
Also make this a front page message.
Core members cannot "officially" endorse this. So they will not. If we want to do this then we are doing this on our own!
Can one of core members talk to a florist and workout some kind of arrangement where if we call them and give a code and payment they would process the order with a pre-set message and delivery address. I'm sure we will have a large participation if we make the process simple for the mass.
Also make this a front page message.
Core members cannot "officially" endorse this. So they will not. If we want to do this then we are doing this on our own!
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Billo
08-02 02:53 PM
My case was received by NSC on Jun 25th. No word yet. My I-140 is from Texas. Very worrying situation,
Don't worry.. you will be fine. you will receipt from TSC in day or two
our application reached NSC on 22 june and cheque cashed yesterday. wait for one or two day, you will get good news
Don't worry.. you will be fine. you will receipt from TSC in day or two
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raj3078
10-24 04:34 PM
As we get closer to election day it seems that Democrats will have control of the Congress. All the polls that have been and are being conducted show that the Democrats are leading the Republicans by double digits.
If Democrats win the CIR will get through but the there will be a huge backlog as there arent enough people at USCIS to do the work, which in a way is retrogession. There will be relief for people with advanced degrees but on paper only.As it will still take years for their paperwork to get through USCIS, others will be in a worse situation as the waiting line would be huge.
If Republicans win there will be no CIR as pointed out by others in the thread. However, SKIL might get through and that will help shorten the waiting period for people without advanced degrees.
Based on my analysis (which might be completely wrong), I think we are better off with Republicans.
Dude,
At least with DEMS there is close to surety of passing one Immigration Bill even if it is CIR.... With REPs, we will never see any bill the light of day... Not sure which world you live in but check out numbersusa site and you will see how they are trying to decrease the immigration - legal or illegal alike.... So while Skill will go through Senate, it will be again blocked in house like it was in Dec2005........ So bottomline is that I would rather have some bill passed and have a hope in sight than no bill and never know if one will ever get GC
If Democrats win the CIR will get through but the there will be a huge backlog as there arent enough people at USCIS to do the work, which in a way is retrogession. There will be relief for people with advanced degrees but on paper only.As it will still take years for their paperwork to get through USCIS, others will be in a worse situation as the waiting line would be huge.
If Republicans win there will be no CIR as pointed out by others in the thread. However, SKIL might get through and that will help shorten the waiting period for people without advanced degrees.
Based on my analysis (which might be completely wrong), I think we are better off with Republicans.
Dude,
At least with DEMS there is close to surety of passing one Immigration Bill even if it is CIR.... With REPs, we will never see any bill the light of day... Not sure which world you live in but check out numbersusa site and you will see how they are trying to decrease the immigration - legal or illegal alike.... So while Skill will go through Senate, it will be again blocked in house like it was in Dec2005........ So bottomline is that I would rather have some bill passed and have a hope in sight than no bill and never know if one will ever get GC
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